It is interesting that Jennifer Rubin, Michelle Goldberg, Max Boot, Mark Cuban, Alejandro Mayorkis, Jennifer Friegl and Bart Volkmer and many other advocates of The Great (White) Replacement are white. At least, they present as white.
I don't think it's real. What is real is that once populations reach a certain level of education and standard of living, their birthrates drop off. "Whites" have reached this first so they are the first to drop off, but other populations are following if you "follow the science" - meaning track the stats.
The stats show it is real. We are talking about a nation. Some very basic civics, political science, and simple math along with my citations show it. I will even illustrate it with simple science experiment since you are a fan of science. Let's start with a recap of some basic civics, political science and math. Then we can do the science.
In 1965 the American nation, that is the people of European descent, Heritage Americans, were 90% of the population. Today we are 57.8% of the population. Heritage Americans under 30 are less than 50% of the population. If we weren't being replaced, we would still be at least 90% of the population even if our birth rate was at or above replacement.
As you can see from my references, mass, third-world, non-European immigration was an intentional policy done specifically to replace the American demos, (Greek for people), and to dispossess them of their political power, (the kracy - Greek for power, DemoKracy - the people have the power). The intent and effect was to destroy the American nation. (See the Paul Krugman link) If you replace the people, (the demos), with a new people you replace the nation and rob the old people of their kracy, (their power), and displace them in their homeland. That was done expressly, and it is being done all over Europe as well.
In 1950, California was 90% white - Americans of European ancestry to be more precise. To be even more precise, these were the descendants of the people who created the nation and settled and built it for, "the sake of their posterity", as it says in the Constitution. California was a strongly Republican and conservative state into the 1990s. In 2021 it was 36% white. California is now a Democratic Party dominated one party state and its vote totals regularly reflect almost exactly the demographic shift. That is an undeniable replacement of the people who formed an electorate with a new one.
This was done on purpose as I show in the post. The plan has now been achieved nation wide. The US will become at the national level a one-party state. The Democrat/Neocon uniparty and their paymasters are shipping the hordes into towns and rural areas all over the country to further dilute our votes and change our way of life.
Here is another illustration of how replacement by the numbers. If only white people without a college degree voted, Republicans would take 268 districts to Democrat's 167. If only non-white people vote, Democrats would take 388 districts to Republican's 47. The Democrats knew this and flooded the country with mass non-European immigration to replace the votes of Heritage America and disenfranchise us. Now they are pushing our replacement in all institutions through, "diversity", and they openly condone anti-white genocidal language. It is very clear why they have wanted to replace white, Heritage Americans. That they want to accelerate it in a climate of open discrimination and tolerance, even celebration of genocidal language is foreboding.
The replacement is also cultural in the form of tearing down our statues, race swapping us out of our history and mythology, excluding us from economic opportunity and intentionally trying to reduce our numbers in every single American institution.
A civilization does not make a people. A people make a civilization. A nation, from the Latin natios - by birth; born of the land, is the people. As Cicero said, "Salus populi suprema lex" - “the survival (or salvation) of the people is the highest law.” In other words, the preservation and stewardship of the well being of the people, is the prime purpose of the state. The people are the nation and the state is created to preserve the nation. Otherwise, that state is illegitimate.
I heard someone explain it perfectly like this. If you took the people of Haiti and put them in Japan, would it be Haiti or Japan? Similarly if you took the people of Japan and put them in Haiti would it be Haiti or Japan? Haiti sort of did that experiment. They genocided the French. They didn't keep much less augment France. They destroyed it and they created Haiti. It is nothing like France because the Haitians are not French. Continuing with the praxeological proof, we could say that in a few years, the Japan would be made Haitian and Haiti would be made Japanese. You can further prove this by looking at Japanese as a minority in a place like Peru. Is Peru Japan? No. Why? They are a minority and can't turn it into Japan. If they were a majority, they would do what they did in Japan, and turn it into Japan.
So, when Americans are a minority, will this be America? No. It will not be America. It will be the financier's tyranny that they will impose to keep the lid from blowing off of their failed experiment in multi-culturalism, all to keep the wealth and replace the dispossessed nation with themselves - as their predecessors knew perfectly well they would do.
As for science, let's do some simple science to illustrate in another way. Let's say we have a container of water. The water represents the people of a nation and the percentage of water represents the following: their political and cultural power; their ability to control and negotiate their own destiny as a people; their ability to develop and express themselves through their culture; their concentration and ability to assert and enjoy their sovereignty. The container represents their homeland and their polity.
The water fills the container 90% as is natural to it, except for 10% of it which is taken up by rocks. If you keep adding far more rocks than water until you have 50% water you have displaced 40% of the water and replaced it with rocks. If you keep adding enough rocks at an ever increasing rate, you will eventually displace and thus replace all of the water in the container. When the container is filled with water it will have the characteristics, (bio-culture), of being inhabited by water - an aquarium. When it is filled with rocks, it will have the characteristics of being inhabited by rocks - a rock collection. That replacement and transformation is happening in every single white homeland and only in white homelands all over the planet.
By the way, often the the anti-white crowd call us, "white", in quotes, as if we are not white. The progenitor of this hateful denial of our peoplehood and identity was Harvard's Noel Saul Ignatiev. I hope you are not implying that white people are not real. I can assure you we are. Jordan Peterson calls us, "white", in quotes too. Funny, he never refers to Jews or other races and ethnic groups in quotes. Peterson is a fool and if you are white and care about your future, you would be wise to not mimic him in this. I would also encourage you to find a much stronger man with much higher standards than, "clean your room", and, "make your bed", to mentor and steel you for the future that is lurking.
"The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists... Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as 'the white race' is destroyed - not 'deconstructed' but destroyed." - Noel Saul Ignatiev
We are not a social construct. We are the indigenous peoples of Europe.
The Great Replacement is real and it is accelerating.
This is a lot of fear mongering. Although I don't know what is so special about the Republican Party, who's to say the "replacements" won't vote Republican? If they did then I suppose it wouldn't be an issue for you. What's so great about the GOP in your view?
"Heritage Americans" - first time hearing that. I heard "legacy American" being tossed about on mainstream Fox News but it didn't stick. I'm also familiar with ADOS (American Descendants of Slaves) and FBA (Foundational Black Americans).
I suppose WHA/White Heritage Americans and FBA/Foundational Black Americans will join forces against this so called GR/Great Replacement?
Nobody is replacing white or black Americans. You all are CHOOSING not to have kids at or above replacement rates.
Whites (and now Blacks) in the USA are not interested in having as many kids as they used to. This is the natural evolution of material progress. You can trace that all around the world. The more educated and materially comfortable a population, the less kids they have, regardless of ethnicity.
"We are not a social construct. We are the indigenous peoples of Europe."
You kind of proved Noel's point. There is no monolithic white race. There are numerous and varied European ethnicities and cultures. All of them very different from each other, hence the centuries of warring and killing each other over these differences and other petty shit.
The "white race as monolithic social construct" is specifically an American invention. There was a time in the US when Italians were not considered "white", now they are. That's called a social construct.
"Haiti sort of did that experiment. They genocided the French."
Who did the French genocide? What were they doing over there in the first place?
" They didn't keep much less augment France. They destroyed it and they created Haiti. It is nothing like France because the Haitians are not French. "
The French have France. All so called "heritage Americans" of French descent should move to France and get their indigenous culture vibe on.
Again, if things are so dire in the US and if European heritage is so important to you - why not move to Europe? No excuses. Plenty of "Black" Americans have moved to various countries on the African Continent after DNA results. In fact it was a whole hashtag movement on social media at its peak. White Americans (with this attitude) can do the same. Nobody will stop you.
And Christian Nationalists can go to Armenia. Especially now that Armenians are being attacked by Azerbaijan (do you know about the war taking place there as we type?), American Christian Nationalists and Armenian Christians should join forces and MAGA Make Armenia Great Again. Armenia is a genuine "Christian Nation" surrounded by hostile non-Christian nations. They need help. Why aren't American Christian Nationalists going there and living in a true Christian nation?
I don't know why you assumed I'm a fan of Peterson?
"Clean your room and make your bed" shows what kind of audience he has. The fact that so many "men" find this advice useful hints at why "incel" is a thing.
It is clear that the ability to comprehend civics and the idea of a polity is a blocker here. The MartyrMade Podcast has a very good podcast on this topic that may expand your ability to grasp and digest these concepts. They are a bit esoteric and take a bit of time to grapple with, especially since our civilization wreckers do not present them for young minds to reckon with. That podcast will also give you a sense of how seriously other well regarded people view and approach this topic.
On the Republican issue, there is nothing special about them. Heritage Americans vote for them because they want them to conserve the nation's founding principles and institutions, not in name, but in substance. As such they are a good proxy for the polity's support for the political force that claims to stand for the preservation and perpetuation of traditional, Heritage America. The data illustrates how the new people are not the least identified with or interested in the preservation of America as measured by their total lack of support for Republicans. It is a useful and informative proxy. As it is, the Republicans suck. They failed in their duty. They are now just six months behind where the Left was six months ago. So there isn't anything special about them.
To stay relevant and garner votes they will pander to the replacements with the same policies that the Democrats do. They already do. So, no, if the replacements vote for them but the policies they advance fail to preserve or even further destroy the nation, then that is pointless. The replacements are just voting for yesterday's Democrats. Their name will remain but their policies won't have anything to do with America. In this same way America will have the name and maybe some of the symbols and a few ceremonial trappings depending on how far the revolution goes, but it will not be America. It can and is already well and commonly argued that America is no longer a nation. Rather, it is an economic zone with un-elected, unaccountable managers who manipulate interest rates to induce human sacks of meat, who are seen as mere economic units adding to and subtracting from GDP, to borrow and spend more.
This is in fact how the Managerial Class views humans. Thus it is a secondary motivating factor in their push for mass immigration. To keep their ponzi scheme and GDP, "growth", from imploding, they import more and younger consumers, print and hand them more money. The problem, is that all ponzi schemes fail. They know that. So, rather than face the losses and reckon with their betrayal of the people with the historic memory and the standards and aspirations that are far deeper than economic calculation, they will create a de-racinated, memoryless, rootless, nationless drek of consumers to rule over. Right now, it looks like on top of managing an accelerating decline they have cast the white man as the villain/scapegoat to feed their new constituency.
As for the Haiti/Japan/France point you respond with a non sequitur, so nothing to say there. The rest of your commentary admits to the replacement. 'You don't like being replaced here - go somewhere else', is effectively what you say. That proves my point. Thank you Incel. You may want to consider how inflammatory that approach is as we navigate uncharted waters. Just a friendly tip. This is my homeland. I am not going anywhere. The Great Replacement that is taking place in Europe, is worse than here given their population density plus the designs of Islam. On top of that their governments are more aggressive in persecuting Europeans who protest and seek to preserve their homelands for their people. They have no First Amendment. It is more dire and bleak than in America.
Your grasp on genetics, and thus race, is lacking. All white people are the same distinct race. White people are Europids. We are genetically the same people - an admixture of Western Hunter Gatherers, Eastern Hunter Gathers and the Yamnaya (Proto-Indo Europeans), and their main descendants, Corded Ware, Sredny Stog and Bell Beaker - all pastoral warriors. We evolved in the same range of latitudes with the same selective pressures that gave us common traits and cultural characteristics unique only to our race. All of our languages are related by the Proto Indo-European of our Yamnaya forefathers. We share the same distinct physiognomy that only a moron or the disingenuous would claim is not the visage of a distinct race of people. The clusters in the DNA scatter charts show what any honest person's eyes can see - we are a distinct race of people.
The wars in post Imperial Roman Europe between Europeans were not wars between different races. They were wars between rival elites and peoples of the same race vying for dominance, territory and tribute. The wars with Carthage, Persia and with the Islamic Caliphate were civilizational wars that were fought by distinct civilizations comprised of distinct races of people. Each of those peoples saw themselves and each other as distinct races.
For Ignatiev, the demonic words of that malevolent misanthrope speak for themselves, and any adolescent uncorrupted by post-modernity's seductions of self delusion and relativism, can see their ghoulish intent.
I don't know your race. But I would never deny your race as it is a fundamental part of who you are. It isn't all you are, but it is the sum of all of your ancestors through the eons, who brought you here to this day so you could get your chance and make your contribution and give your children that same chance. It is the sum of their relationship with the lands upon which they evolved for tens of thousands of years. Any person who would deny your race is denying a fundamental part of your identity. They are denying your past, all the way back into the primordial mists. They are renouncing your ancestors. Nay, It is worse. They are denying their very existence. They are denying your identity and in so doing announcing an intent to obliterate you. All genocides involve a denial. The victim denies before and during and the perpetrators deny after. Someone who denies you and your entire people's existence before the genocide is pre-stating their denial - after all, you never existed to begin with. Any person who would ask you to throw away your unique genetic heritage without a care, may not care very much about you.
Every race and every nation that is born of its race has a right to exist; things to celebrate, to mourn and to aspire to. Every race and every nation it gives birth to has a duty to itself to perpetuate, preserve and defend its existence. Just as making race the sole defining characteristics of one's identity is bad and unhealthy, denying the existence of an entire people is the darkest of evils. I would caution anyone to avoid the path that Ignatiev and his acolytes have set upon. The egalitarians of post-America are amongst his acolytes, some are witting and brazen. Some, like Jordan Peterson, so blinded by his egalitarian, radical individualism, are foolishly unwitting.
I think you misread my section on Peterson. I made no assumption you were a fan. We agree on him in some regard it seems.
Alright Incel. Best of luck to you. I appreciate you dropping by my page.
" It can and is already well and commonly argued that America is no longer a nation. Rather, it is an economic zone with un-elected, unaccountable managers who manipulate interest rates to induce human sacks of meat, who are seen as mere economic units adding to and subtracting from GDP, to borrow and spend more.
This is in fact how the Managerial Class views humans. "
-- That is how capitalism views humans.
What is the percentage of "heritage americans" working in slaughterhouses? Working in meat packing factories? Working in fields picking tomatoes and potatoes? Who works these jobs and why? Who employs them and how much do they pay?
"I don't know your race. But I would never deny your race as it is a fundamental part of who you are."
-- There's no race to deny. I don't have one. I do have an ethnicity, however. What "race" would you consider Indians? The "brown" race? Which type of Indian is "brown race" - dot or feather?
Remember the old "Negroid" "Caucasoid" "Mongoloid" model that said people from India were a combo of all 3 because they had "dark skin of the negroid" "caucasian features" and "mongoloid hair"?
"The Great Replacement that is taking place in Europe, is worse than here given their population density plus the designs of Islam. "
-- That's precisely why "heritage americans" of European descent should go there and help out. Go back to original heritage. At least save Europe and Christianity.
"You may want to consider how inflammatory that approach is as we navigate uncharted waters. Just a friendly tip. "
-- Civil War? Not. Gonna. Happen.
"tearing down our statues,"
-- Instead of destroying them some Eastern European countries that were formerly under the iron fist of the USSR moved statues of Lenin and Stalin to public bathrooms. That would be a better idea for the confederate statues of Robert E. Lee and others. We should never forget or erase evil history otherwise it could be repeated.
Your TLDR comment text is book worthy. Yet in all of that you still never address the core issue: "Heritage Americans" whether they are "black" or "white" or indigenous First Nations, are not having babies at replacement rates. You all are consciously CHOOSING to die out. You are taking YOURSELVES out of the gene pool.
I thoroughly addressed the core issue and explained it to you. We are not dying out. The American population has increased by over 30 million people since 1965. We went from 90% to 57% of the population in that time, despite that increase in our number. Incel I know you can figure this out. For the fourth time, the American percentage of the population decline is because of massive immigration, offsetting a net increase in the American population. This is a demographic replacement of the polity not a mass die off.
A bunch of mostly South American Indians pick the strawberries and lettuce, blow the leaves and clean the slaughterhouses work, as big city valets, dishwashers ... They do that because after we had: sailed the seven seas and mapped the currents and tides of the oceans and continents while circumnavigating the globe; invented all the machinery and energy systems that created all the wealth that everyone wants to come here and enjoy; discovered miraculous medicines radically improving life expectancy; revolutionized food production enabling places like India to avoid mass starvation after radically over populating thanks to our industrial and medical advances after shipping them our homegrown surplus food; split the atom and invented digital computing machines; discovered and mapped the genome ... We sent our next generation of explorers and navigators into the heavens and walked on the moon.
Then, at the launch pad some beggars came in a jalopy with a sob story and their hands out. LBJ, Congress and the weak men posing as leaders were on camera at this moment of astonishing triumph. They caved to a traitorous media filled with anti-American revolutionaries that relentlessly shamed them and escalated their long march of subverting our nation.
Those leaders lost their moral courage if they ever had any. They erected a massive welfare state that paid millions of people who used to do those menial jobs, not to work. They erected a massive bureaucracy that paid even more people not to work and sucked many talented people out of the private sector into the government sector. Then, corrupt international bankers shipped our manufacturing base overseas. Instead of helping those newly unemployed at least transition to something new or better, they paid them not to work or upgrade their skills as well.
Finally, to forestall the greatest bankruptcy the world has ever known, they exhausted our empire on useless overseas wars while simultaneously creating huge financial bubbles. Those bubbles took college graduates with no tangible or demonstrably valuable skill and employed them in media, marketing, PR, government, NGOs, propaganda masquerading as journalism, diversity and teacher bureaucracies and more. Those people, many of whom we call The Woke, are not only not productive, they are counter productive as they actively work to destroy not just our nation, but our entire civilization.
We created a vast army of highly paid sinecures. The regime blew massive bubbles in expropriative finance and BS "technology", firms employing huge numbers of people to write useless code for 5 times redundant applications for largely unprofitable companies. Many of the profitable companies show ads and call that the product, or they sell consumer data and make products that arrest the development of people's minds and personalities with useless trivia.
In short, a corrupt and weak group of men created a massive parasitic class. Those Americans enabled as parasites should have been picking strawberries, picking lettuce and cleaning the slaughterhouses as they climbed the economic ladder free from the relentless rat race of competition from imported scab and helot class labor from abroad. Many women could have been raising and bearing more children and kept our once strong family system in tact, instead of doing those useless non or even counter-productive jobs.
All of those people, when finally someday the interest rate regime can't keep them employed will be thrust into competition for those jobs, and the BS jobs will be no more. Maybe all of the wanna-be aristocrats will blow their own leaves, mow their own lawns, stroll their own children and clean their own toilets again.
In short, weak men gave up and took the easy way out. I don't blame the immigrants, I blame the degenerate, pretend elite that brought them in to create a political machine that would make Tammany Hall look like a sunday school lost and found run by angels. I think it is also a tragedy for the immigrants and their homelands. Their homelands have been robbed of their industry and energy, and thus their nation's upward development is stunted or even degraded.
All things, good and terrible, come to an end.
You know Incel, I've been to India. Not only have the Indians I met, been numerate and smart, they have also been very polite and kind. When I was in India, or anywhere that I've been abroad for that matter, it never occurred to me when I was there to comport myself like this and suggest to an Indian that he leave his homeland because, well I said so. I wouldn't deign to suggest that his statues to his nation's great generals, explorers and statesmen be put in train station bathrooms. You are better than that.
First you assume I'm a Peterson fan now you assume I'm an Indian?
"A bunch of mostly South American Indians pick the strawberries and lettuce, blow the leaves and clean the slaughterhouses work, as big city valets, dishwashers"
There is absolutely no reason why "heritage americans" can't do that work and raise their children to do that work.
Another discussion of using immigration to "destroy the GOP":
1. https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2019/09/06/michelle-goldberg-dare-we/ (Michelle Goldberg)
It is interesting that Jennifer Rubin, Michelle Goldberg, Max Boot, Mark Cuban, Alejandro Mayorkis, Jennifer Friegl and Bart Volkmer and many other advocates of The Great (White) Replacement are white. At least, they present as white.
They're not White, they're Jews.
I don't think it's real. What is real is that once populations reach a certain level of education and standard of living, their birthrates drop off. "Whites" have reached this first so they are the first to drop off, but other populations are following if you "follow the science" - meaning track the stats.
Hey Incel -
The stats show it is real. We are talking about a nation. Some very basic civics, political science, and simple math along with my citations show it. I will even illustrate it with simple science experiment since you are a fan of science. Let's start with a recap of some basic civics, political science and math. Then we can do the science.
In 1965 the American nation, that is the people of European descent, Heritage Americans, were 90% of the population. Today we are 57.8% of the population. Heritage Americans under 30 are less than 50% of the population. If we weren't being replaced, we would still be at least 90% of the population even if our birth rate was at or above replacement.
As you can see from my references, mass, third-world, non-European immigration was an intentional policy done specifically to replace the American demos, (Greek for people), and to dispossess them of their political power, (the kracy - Greek for power, DemoKracy - the people have the power). The intent and effect was to destroy the American nation. (See the Paul Krugman link) If you replace the people, (the demos), with a new people you replace the nation and rob the old people of their kracy, (their power), and displace them in their homeland. That was done expressly, and it is being done all over Europe as well.
In 1950, California was 90% white - Americans of European ancestry to be more precise. To be even more precise, these were the descendants of the people who created the nation and settled and built it for, "the sake of their posterity", as it says in the Constitution. California was a strongly Republican and conservative state into the 1990s. In 2021 it was 36% white. California is now a Democratic Party dominated one party state and its vote totals regularly reflect almost exactly the demographic shift. That is an undeniable replacement of the people who formed an electorate with a new one.
This was done on purpose as I show in the post. The plan has now been achieved nation wide. The US will become at the national level a one-party state. The Democrat/Neocon uniparty and their paymasters are shipping the hordes into towns and rural areas all over the country to further dilute our votes and change our way of life.
Here is another illustration of how replacement by the numbers. If only white people without a college degree voted, Republicans would take 268 districts to Democrat's 167. If only non-white people vote, Democrats would take 388 districts to Republican's 47. The Democrats knew this and flooded the country with mass non-European immigration to replace the votes of Heritage America and disenfranchise us. Now they are pushing our replacement in all institutions through, "diversity", and they openly condone anti-white genocidal language. It is very clear why they have wanted to replace white, Heritage Americans. That they want to accelerate it in a climate of open discrimination and tolerance, even celebration of genocidal language is foreboding.
The replacement is also cultural in the form of tearing down our statues, race swapping us out of our history and mythology, excluding us from economic opportunity and intentionally trying to reduce our numbers in every single American institution.
A civilization does not make a people. A people make a civilization. A nation, from the Latin natios - by birth; born of the land, is the people. As Cicero said, "Salus populi suprema lex" - “the survival (or salvation) of the people is the highest law.” In other words, the preservation and stewardship of the well being of the people, is the prime purpose of the state. The people are the nation and the state is created to preserve the nation. Otherwise, that state is illegitimate.
I heard someone explain it perfectly like this. If you took the people of Haiti and put them in Japan, would it be Haiti or Japan? Similarly if you took the people of Japan and put them in Haiti would it be Haiti or Japan? Haiti sort of did that experiment. They genocided the French. They didn't keep much less augment France. They destroyed it and they created Haiti. It is nothing like France because the Haitians are not French. Continuing with the praxeological proof, we could say that in a few years, the Japan would be made Haitian and Haiti would be made Japanese. You can further prove this by looking at Japanese as a minority in a place like Peru. Is Peru Japan? No. Why? They are a minority and can't turn it into Japan. If they were a majority, they would do what they did in Japan, and turn it into Japan.
So, when Americans are a minority, will this be America? No. It will not be America. It will be the financier's tyranny that they will impose to keep the lid from blowing off of their failed experiment in multi-culturalism, all to keep the wealth and replace the dispossessed nation with themselves - as their predecessors knew perfectly well they would do.
As for science, let's do some simple science to illustrate in another way. Let's say we have a container of water. The water represents the people of a nation and the percentage of water represents the following: their political and cultural power; their ability to control and negotiate their own destiny as a people; their ability to develop and express themselves through their culture; their concentration and ability to assert and enjoy their sovereignty. The container represents their homeland and their polity.
The water fills the container 90% as is natural to it, except for 10% of it which is taken up by rocks. If you keep adding far more rocks than water until you have 50% water you have displaced 40% of the water and replaced it with rocks. If you keep adding enough rocks at an ever increasing rate, you will eventually displace and thus replace all of the water in the container. When the container is filled with water it will have the characteristics, (bio-culture), of being inhabited by water - an aquarium. When it is filled with rocks, it will have the characteristics of being inhabited by rocks - a rock collection. That replacement and transformation is happening in every single white homeland and only in white homelands all over the planet.
By the way, often the the anti-white crowd call us, "white", in quotes, as if we are not white. The progenitor of this hateful denial of our peoplehood and identity was Harvard's Noel Saul Ignatiev. I hope you are not implying that white people are not real. I can assure you we are. Jordan Peterson calls us, "white", in quotes too. Funny, he never refers to Jews or other races and ethnic groups in quotes. Peterson is a fool and if you are white and care about your future, you would be wise to not mimic him in this. I would also encourage you to find a much stronger man with much higher standards than, "clean your room", and, "make your bed", to mentor and steel you for the future that is lurking.
"The goal of abolishing the white race is on its face so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists... Keep bashing the dead white males, and the live ones, and the females too, until the social construct known as 'the white race' is destroyed - not 'deconstructed' but destroyed." - Noel Saul Ignatiev
We are not a social construct. We are the indigenous peoples of Europe.
The Great Replacement is real and it is accelerating.
This is a lot of fear mongering. Although I don't know what is so special about the Republican Party, who's to say the "replacements" won't vote Republican? If they did then I suppose it wouldn't be an issue for you. What's so great about the GOP in your view?
"Heritage Americans" - first time hearing that. I heard "legacy American" being tossed about on mainstream Fox News but it didn't stick. I'm also familiar with ADOS (American Descendants of Slaves) and FBA (Foundational Black Americans).
I suppose WHA/White Heritage Americans and FBA/Foundational Black Americans will join forces against this so called GR/Great Replacement?
Nobody is replacing white or black Americans. You all are CHOOSING not to have kids at or above replacement rates.
Whites (and now Blacks) in the USA are not interested in having as many kids as they used to. This is the natural evolution of material progress. You can trace that all around the world. The more educated and materially comfortable a population, the less kids they have, regardless of ethnicity.
"We are not a social construct. We are the indigenous peoples of Europe."
You kind of proved Noel's point. There is no monolithic white race. There are numerous and varied European ethnicities and cultures. All of them very different from each other, hence the centuries of warring and killing each other over these differences and other petty shit.
The "white race as monolithic social construct" is specifically an American invention. There was a time in the US when Italians were not considered "white", now they are. That's called a social construct.
"Haiti sort of did that experiment. They genocided the French."
Who did the French genocide? What were they doing over there in the first place?
" They didn't keep much less augment France. They destroyed it and they created Haiti. It is nothing like France because the Haitians are not French. "
The French have France. All so called "heritage Americans" of French descent should move to France and get their indigenous culture vibe on.
Again, if things are so dire in the US and if European heritage is so important to you - why not move to Europe? No excuses. Plenty of "Black" Americans have moved to various countries on the African Continent after DNA results. In fact it was a whole hashtag movement on social media at its peak. White Americans (with this attitude) can do the same. Nobody will stop you.
And Christian Nationalists can go to Armenia. Especially now that Armenians are being attacked by Azerbaijan (do you know about the war taking place there as we type?), American Christian Nationalists and Armenian Christians should join forces and MAGA Make Armenia Great Again. Armenia is a genuine "Christian Nation" surrounded by hostile non-Christian nations. They need help. Why aren't American Christian Nationalists going there and living in a true Christian nation?
I don't know why you assumed I'm a fan of Peterson?
"Clean your room and make your bed" shows what kind of audience he has. The fact that so many "men" find this advice useful hints at why "incel" is a thing.
It is clear that the ability to comprehend civics and the idea of a polity is a blocker here. The MartyrMade Podcast has a very good podcast on this topic that may expand your ability to grasp and digest these concepts. They are a bit esoteric and take a bit of time to grapple with, especially since our civilization wreckers do not present them for young minds to reckon with. That podcast will also give you a sense of how seriously other well regarded people view and approach this topic.
On the Republican issue, there is nothing special about them. Heritage Americans vote for them because they want them to conserve the nation's founding principles and institutions, not in name, but in substance. As such they are a good proxy for the polity's support for the political force that claims to stand for the preservation and perpetuation of traditional, Heritage America. The data illustrates how the new people are not the least identified with or interested in the preservation of America as measured by their total lack of support for Republicans. It is a useful and informative proxy. As it is, the Republicans suck. They failed in their duty. They are now just six months behind where the Left was six months ago. So there isn't anything special about them.
To stay relevant and garner votes they will pander to the replacements with the same policies that the Democrats do. They already do. So, no, if the replacements vote for them but the policies they advance fail to preserve or even further destroy the nation, then that is pointless. The replacements are just voting for yesterday's Democrats. Their name will remain but their policies won't have anything to do with America. In this same way America will have the name and maybe some of the symbols and a few ceremonial trappings depending on how far the revolution goes, but it will not be America. It can and is already well and commonly argued that America is no longer a nation. Rather, it is an economic zone with un-elected, unaccountable managers who manipulate interest rates to induce human sacks of meat, who are seen as mere economic units adding to and subtracting from GDP, to borrow and spend more.
This is in fact how the Managerial Class views humans. Thus it is a secondary motivating factor in their push for mass immigration. To keep their ponzi scheme and GDP, "growth", from imploding, they import more and younger consumers, print and hand them more money. The problem, is that all ponzi schemes fail. They know that. So, rather than face the losses and reckon with their betrayal of the people with the historic memory and the standards and aspirations that are far deeper than economic calculation, they will create a de-racinated, memoryless, rootless, nationless drek of consumers to rule over. Right now, it looks like on top of managing an accelerating decline they have cast the white man as the villain/scapegoat to feed their new constituency.
As for the Haiti/Japan/France point you respond with a non sequitur, so nothing to say there. The rest of your commentary admits to the replacement. 'You don't like being replaced here - go somewhere else', is effectively what you say. That proves my point. Thank you Incel. You may want to consider how inflammatory that approach is as we navigate uncharted waters. Just a friendly tip. This is my homeland. I am not going anywhere. The Great Replacement that is taking place in Europe, is worse than here given their population density plus the designs of Islam. On top of that their governments are more aggressive in persecuting Europeans who protest and seek to preserve their homelands for their people. They have no First Amendment. It is more dire and bleak than in America.
Your grasp on genetics, and thus race, is lacking. All white people are the same distinct race. White people are Europids. We are genetically the same people - an admixture of Western Hunter Gatherers, Eastern Hunter Gathers and the Yamnaya (Proto-Indo Europeans), and their main descendants, Corded Ware, Sredny Stog and Bell Beaker - all pastoral warriors. We evolved in the same range of latitudes with the same selective pressures that gave us common traits and cultural characteristics unique only to our race. All of our languages are related by the Proto Indo-European of our Yamnaya forefathers. We share the same distinct physiognomy that only a moron or the disingenuous would claim is not the visage of a distinct race of people. The clusters in the DNA scatter charts show what any honest person's eyes can see - we are a distinct race of people.
The wars in post Imperial Roman Europe between Europeans were not wars between different races. They were wars between rival elites and peoples of the same race vying for dominance, territory and tribute. The wars with Carthage, Persia and with the Islamic Caliphate were civilizational wars that were fought by distinct civilizations comprised of distinct races of people. Each of those peoples saw themselves and each other as distinct races.
For Ignatiev, the demonic words of that malevolent misanthrope speak for themselves, and any adolescent uncorrupted by post-modernity's seductions of self delusion and relativism, can see their ghoulish intent.
I don't know your race. But I would never deny your race as it is a fundamental part of who you are. It isn't all you are, but it is the sum of all of your ancestors through the eons, who brought you here to this day so you could get your chance and make your contribution and give your children that same chance. It is the sum of their relationship with the lands upon which they evolved for tens of thousands of years. Any person who would deny your race is denying a fundamental part of your identity. They are denying your past, all the way back into the primordial mists. They are renouncing your ancestors. Nay, It is worse. They are denying their very existence. They are denying your identity and in so doing announcing an intent to obliterate you. All genocides involve a denial. The victim denies before and during and the perpetrators deny after. Someone who denies you and your entire people's existence before the genocide is pre-stating their denial - after all, you never existed to begin with. Any person who would ask you to throw away your unique genetic heritage without a care, may not care very much about you.
Every race and every nation that is born of its race has a right to exist; things to celebrate, to mourn and to aspire to. Every race and every nation it gives birth to has a duty to itself to perpetuate, preserve and defend its existence. Just as making race the sole defining characteristics of one's identity is bad and unhealthy, denying the existence of an entire people is the darkest of evils. I would caution anyone to avoid the path that Ignatiev and his acolytes have set upon. The egalitarians of post-America are amongst his acolytes, some are witting and brazen. Some, like Jordan Peterson, so blinded by his egalitarian, radical individualism, are foolishly unwitting.
I think you misread my section on Peterson. I made no assumption you were a fan. We agree on him in some regard it seems.
Alright Incel. Best of luck to you. I appreciate you dropping by my page.
" It can and is already well and commonly argued that America is no longer a nation. Rather, it is an economic zone with un-elected, unaccountable managers who manipulate interest rates to induce human sacks of meat, who are seen as mere economic units adding to and subtracting from GDP, to borrow and spend more.
This is in fact how the Managerial Class views humans. "
-- That is how capitalism views humans.
What is the percentage of "heritage americans" working in slaughterhouses? Working in meat packing factories? Working in fields picking tomatoes and potatoes? Who works these jobs and why? Who employs them and how much do they pay?
"I don't know your race. But I would never deny your race as it is a fundamental part of who you are."
-- There's no race to deny. I don't have one. I do have an ethnicity, however. What "race" would you consider Indians? The "brown" race? Which type of Indian is "brown race" - dot or feather?
Remember the old "Negroid" "Caucasoid" "Mongoloid" model that said people from India were a combo of all 3 because they had "dark skin of the negroid" "caucasian features" and "mongoloid hair"?
"The Great Replacement that is taking place in Europe, is worse than here given their population density plus the designs of Islam. "
-- That's precisely why "heritage americans" of European descent should go there and help out. Go back to original heritage. At least save Europe and Christianity.
"You may want to consider how inflammatory that approach is as we navigate uncharted waters. Just a friendly tip. "
-- Civil War? Not. Gonna. Happen.
"tearing down our statues,"
-- Instead of destroying them some Eastern European countries that were formerly under the iron fist of the USSR moved statues of Lenin and Stalin to public bathrooms. That would be a better idea for the confederate statues of Robert E. Lee and others. We should never forget or erase evil history otherwise it could be repeated.
Your TLDR comment text is book worthy. Yet in all of that you still never address the core issue: "Heritage Americans" whether they are "black" or "white" or indigenous First Nations, are not having babies at replacement rates. You all are consciously CHOOSING to die out. You are taking YOURSELVES out of the gene pool.
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I thoroughly addressed the core issue and explained it to you. We are not dying out. The American population has increased by over 30 million people since 1965. We went from 90% to 57% of the population in that time, despite that increase in our number. Incel I know you can figure this out. For the fourth time, the American percentage of the population decline is because of massive immigration, offsetting a net increase in the American population. This is a demographic replacement of the polity not a mass die off.
A bunch of mostly South American Indians pick the strawberries and lettuce, blow the leaves and clean the slaughterhouses work, as big city valets, dishwashers ... They do that because after we had: sailed the seven seas and mapped the currents and tides of the oceans and continents while circumnavigating the globe; invented all the machinery and energy systems that created all the wealth that everyone wants to come here and enjoy; discovered miraculous medicines radically improving life expectancy; revolutionized food production enabling places like India to avoid mass starvation after radically over populating thanks to our industrial and medical advances after shipping them our homegrown surplus food; split the atom and invented digital computing machines; discovered and mapped the genome ... We sent our next generation of explorers and navigators into the heavens and walked on the moon.
Then, at the launch pad some beggars came in a jalopy with a sob story and their hands out. LBJ, Congress and the weak men posing as leaders were on camera at this moment of astonishing triumph. They caved to a traitorous media filled with anti-American revolutionaries that relentlessly shamed them and escalated their long march of subverting our nation.
Those leaders lost their moral courage if they ever had any. They erected a massive welfare state that paid millions of people who used to do those menial jobs, not to work. They erected a massive bureaucracy that paid even more people not to work and sucked many talented people out of the private sector into the government sector. Then, corrupt international bankers shipped our manufacturing base overseas. Instead of helping those newly unemployed at least transition to something new or better, they paid them not to work or upgrade their skills as well.
Finally, to forestall the greatest bankruptcy the world has ever known, they exhausted our empire on useless overseas wars while simultaneously creating huge financial bubbles. Those bubbles took college graduates with no tangible or demonstrably valuable skill and employed them in media, marketing, PR, government, NGOs, propaganda masquerading as journalism, diversity and teacher bureaucracies and more. Those people, many of whom we call The Woke, are not only not productive, they are counter productive as they actively work to destroy not just our nation, but our entire civilization.
We created a vast army of highly paid sinecures. The regime blew massive bubbles in expropriative finance and BS "technology", firms employing huge numbers of people to write useless code for 5 times redundant applications for largely unprofitable companies. Many of the profitable companies show ads and call that the product, or they sell consumer data and make products that arrest the development of people's minds and personalities with useless trivia.
In short, a corrupt and weak group of men created a massive parasitic class. Those Americans enabled as parasites should have been picking strawberries, picking lettuce and cleaning the slaughterhouses as they climbed the economic ladder free from the relentless rat race of competition from imported scab and helot class labor from abroad. Many women could have been raising and bearing more children and kept our once strong family system in tact, instead of doing those useless non or even counter-productive jobs.
All of those people, when finally someday the interest rate regime can't keep them employed will be thrust into competition for those jobs, and the BS jobs will be no more. Maybe all of the wanna-be aristocrats will blow their own leaves, mow their own lawns, stroll their own children and clean their own toilets again.
In short, weak men gave up and took the easy way out. I don't blame the immigrants, I blame the degenerate, pretend elite that brought them in to create a political machine that would make Tammany Hall look like a sunday school lost and found run by angels. I think it is also a tragedy for the immigrants and their homelands. Their homelands have been robbed of their industry and energy, and thus their nation's upward development is stunted or even degraded.
All things, good and terrible, come to an end.
You know Incel, I've been to India. Not only have the Indians I met, been numerate and smart, they have also been very polite and kind. When I was in India, or anywhere that I've been abroad for that matter, it never occurred to me when I was there to comport myself like this and suggest to an Indian that he leave his homeland because, well I said so. I wouldn't deign to suggest that his statues to his nation's great generals, explorers and statesmen be put in train station bathrooms. You are better than that.
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First you assume I'm a Peterson fan now you assume I'm an Indian?
"A bunch of mostly South American Indians pick the strawberries and lettuce, blow the leaves and clean the slaughterhouses work, as big city valets, dishwashers"
There is absolutely no reason why "heritage americans" can't do that work and raise their children to do that work.
You are really a hateful person.