I looked up the location of that statue of Columbus with an Arabic inscription. It's in Alexandria, Egypt. I admire those Arabs for being braver than San Franciscans. San Francisco tore down its statue of Columbus.
Cool. Thank you. When I was looking for images, I discovered a huge number of statues of Columbus all over South America. North America didn't have a colonized people. In fact, we gave the stone age indigenous their own lands and quite the opposite of genocide their population went from about 800k when we arrived to being a couple million today.. Yet in South America the Europeans more or less still rule while the majority population is indigenous. Still, they retain their statues and proudly display them. It is quite remarkable.
In my search I also saw articles in the major US, "press", locating all the remaining US statues and asking why they are still standing. The US is a hollowed out and conquered nation. I hope articles like this one lead to us reversing this sad situation.
And thanks for pointing out the connection between the Islamic conquest of Constantinople and the need for Spain to look in the other direction for trade with India.
I visited Mexico City early this year, and noticed that there is still a pretty clear distinction between people of Spanish descent only, mixed people, and Indians. I also learned that Montezuma was actually made a member of the Spanish nobility, and his descendants are still considered nobility today:
"The Duke of Moctezuma de Tultengo is a hereditary title of Spanish nobility held by a line of descendants of Emperor Moctezuma II, the ninth Tlatoani of Tenochtitlan. Since 1766, the title has been associated with a Grandeza de Espaa, the highest honor accorded to Spanish nobility. The Palace of Moctezuma, located in Ciudad Rodrigo, Salamanca, Spain, is one of many palaces erected by the descendants of Moctezuma II."
So it's wrong to say that the Spanish were implacably racist against the Indians.
Agreed. I quoted a lot of your post here, with a link bacK;
https://patrick.net/post/555466/2010-10-11-happy-columbus-day?start=8#comment-1995975
I looked up the location of that statue of Columbus with an Arabic inscription. It's in Alexandria, Egypt. I admire those Arabs for being braver than San Franciscans. San Francisco tore down its statue of Columbus.
Cool. Thank you. When I was looking for images, I discovered a huge number of statues of Columbus all over South America. North America didn't have a colonized people. In fact, we gave the stone age indigenous their own lands and quite the opposite of genocide their population went from about 800k when we arrived to being a couple million today.. Yet in South America the Europeans more or less still rule while the majority population is indigenous. Still, they retain their statues and proudly display them. It is quite remarkable.
In my search I also saw articles in the major US, "press", locating all the remaining US statues and asking why they are still standing. The US is a hollowed out and conquered nation. I hope articles like this one lead to us reversing this sad situation.
And thanks for pointing out the connection between the Islamic conquest of Constantinople and the need for Spain to look in the other direction for trade with India.
I visited Mexico City early this year, and noticed that there is still a pretty clear distinction between people of Spanish descent only, mixed people, and Indians. I also learned that Montezuma was actually made a member of the Spanish nobility, and his descendants are still considered nobility today:
"The Duke of Moctezuma de Tultengo is a hereditary title of Spanish nobility held by a line of descendants of Emperor Moctezuma II, the ninth Tlatoani of Tenochtitlan. Since 1766, the title has been associated with a Grandeza de Espaa, the highest honor accorded to Spanish nobility. The Palace of Moctezuma, located in Ciudad Rodrigo, Salamanca, Spain, is one of many palaces erected by the descendants of Moctezuma II."
So it's wrong to say that the Spanish were implacably racist against the Indians.